The potential dangers of adding children as joint tenants

Many people like to add the name of a child, or children, to their home. The hope is to avoid probate fees on the death of the parent, and have the asset go directly to the children.

However, before you make this decision, be aware of the following potential danger:

  • First, if you later have a change of heart and do not wish to leave property to that child, it may be impossible to “undo” what you have done
  • Second, if the child who is now on title, attracts a judgement creditor, the judgement creditor may be entitled to go after the child’s share of the home

In short, sometimes circumstances cannot be controlled. Once you add a person to your title, you have given legal rights to that individual. Creditors will be entitled to rely on the legal position you create when you add a joint tenant.

James Steele’s preferred practise area is estate litigation. Contact James Steele at 1-306-933-1338 or [email protected]. The above is for general information only. Parties should always seek legal advice prior to taking action in specific situations. 

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The “wills exception” to solicitor-client privilege

Solicitor-client privilege means communications between a lawyer and a client, are confidential. Thus, if a third party wants to see what a client told their lawyer when seeking advice, the court will not allow this.

However, there exists a “wills exception” to solicitor-client privilege. That is, when a will is disputed, and it is not clear what the deceased intended, the court can order that key records be released.

The basis for this exception is that if privilege was simply rigidly upheld, this would prevent a court from seeing evidence which could shed light on the true intention of a testator for their estate.

Thus, for those with concerns about whether a will is valid, a key source of evidence can sometimes be found in the lawyer’s notes which were created when a Will was made. Such solicitors’ records will often be very persuasive as they are made contemporaneously by lawyers trained to look for capacity, and who stood to receive nothing under the estate.

James Steele’s preferred practise area is estate litigation, including will challenges, executor disputes, power of attorney issues, etc. Contact James Steele at 1-306-933-1338 or [email protected]. The above is for general information only. Parties should always seek legal advice prior to taking action in specific situations. Copyright 2018 by the author. All rights reserved. 

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Who Approves Compensation for the Executors?

Typically, executor compensation will be governed in one of three ways:

  1. By a specific term in the Will, setting out a compensation percentage (these terms rarely exist however);
  2. By the agreement of the beneficiary (this is most common)
  3. If the beneficiary and executor do not agree, by a court order.

The vast majority of estates see beneficiaries consent to the compensation amount requested by the executor. The executor will first provide an accounting which sets out all of the transactions of the estate, so the beneficiaries can make sure they have no concerns. The executors will then often ask for a sum for compensation, and for their out of pocket expenses. Often, the beneficiaries will agree, and sign a consent.   

However, sometimes the beneficiaries feel that the compensation is too high for the work actually done. Or sometimes, there are minor (children) beneficiaries who are unable to provide capacitated consent. In these situations, the executor will need to go to court to seek court approval for their compensation. This approval should be given before the executor actually pays themselves anything.

How will the court fix the appropriate compensation:

There has grown to be a “rule of thumb” that an executor will receive a fee of 5% of the estate, as compensation for their work.

However, in estates which are very large, or, which were not specially complicated, courts routinely reduce compensation to below 5%. After all, 5% of a $2 million estate could be a huge amount of money, which may be too much compensation if the executor only dealt with a straightforward sale of farmland (often assisted by a lawyer).

In terms of the considerations that a court would examine, they include:

  1. The size of the estate;
  2. The care and responsibility required to administer the estate;
  3. The time occupied by the executor;
  4. The skill and ability displayed; and
  5. The success in administering the estate.

In short, before any executor “pays themselves” any fair compensation, be sure to first get written consent to the compensation from the affected beneficiaries. The last thing you want is to pay yourself a fee, and only then find there is a dispute, and perhaps you may even need to pay some of the money back to the estate.

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Estate Litigation Update – Thorne v Thorne

A recent case of the Saskatchewan Court of Queen Bench offers the following lesson: the Court’s power to “fix” clerical mistakes in Wills, may not necessarily be ordered if there are deeper concerns about the testator’s actual testamentary intentions.

Section 37 of The Wills Act, 1996,  SS 1996, c W-14.1, allows the court to “cure” Wills which have certain flaws in them. Such flaws may include the wrong number of witnesses or some other formality that is missing.

The provision is set out below:

37    The court may, notwithstanding that a document or writing was not executed in compliance with all the formal requirements imposed by this Act, order that the document or writing be fully effective as though it had been properly executed as the will of the deceased or as the revocation, alteration or revival of the will of the deceased or of the testamentary intentions embodied in that other document, where a court, on application is satisfied that the document or writing embodies:

(a) the testamentary intentions of a deceased; or

(b)  the intention of a deceased to revoke, alter or revive a will of the deceased or the testamentary intentions of the deceased embodied in a document other than a will.

[Emphasis added]

In Thorne, Keili Thorne had applied for a declaration, under s. 37 of The Wills Act, 1996,  SS 1996, c W-14.1, that a document signed by Richard  Thorne (in early October 2014) was fully effective as though it had been properly executed as the will of Mr. Thorne. 

The will had been signed in front of two witnesses, but only one of those witnesses signed the document to indicate that he witnessed Mr. Thorne’s signature. Ordinarily, this application would be a simple matter, and the Court would most likely have cured the Will under s. 37.

However, this particular application was opposed by Lia Tanit Thorne and Brendan Johnston Thorne. Tanit and Brendan argued that the Will had suspicious circumstances regarding Mr. Thorne’s testamentary capacity at the time that he signed the document.

The Court’s decision:

The Court acknowledged that the document looked and read like a will. However, the Court held that s. 37 also requires the court to be satisfied that the document actually sets out the testator’s final testamentary disposition.

The Court recognized that Tanit and Brendan had raised a number of concerns about the testator’s behaviour in 2014:

  1. Prior to signing the document, Mr. Thorne had intended to benefit all three of his children equally. The document he eventually signed did not do that;
  2. There was evidence (including evidence of people other than the parties) of Mr. Thorne’s positive ongoing relationship with Brendan;
  3. Gwenda (testator’s sister) recounted estate planning discussions with Mr. Thorne in which he planned an equal distribution of his estate among his three children.
  4. There was evidence suggesting that, around the time that he signed the document, Mr. Thorne faced challenges as to his mental acuity. In his November 14, 2014 email to Gwenda he wrote:

I’m beginning to think we never finished the POA. What we did when she was here was I made her co-administrator of my Honduran Corp. which owns all my assets here. She has the power to sell if she wants. She also has a bunch of signed cheques so she can access the money in my accounts.

But then again I’m not sure. I may have signed some stuff. Sheeeshhh..

  1. There was no evidence before the court (other than the document itself) as to Mr. Thorne’s testamentary capacity or intentions at the time that he signed the document;
  2. There was no evidence before the court as to the circumstances surrounding the preparation and signing of the document. The court does not know who prepared it, or on whose instructions.

The applicant provided rebuttal evidence, as to show that Mr. Thorne did manifest an intent to make the applicant his sole beneficiary. However, the Court felt faced with a conflict on the evidence as to just what Mr. Thorne truly intended. The Court felt that it was premature for the Court to make a binding determination on the basis of the affidavit evidence before it:

[19]       There remains, though, the evidence supporting the opposite conclusion. The respondents have provided good reasons for doubting that Mr. Thorne had testamentary capacity when he signed the document. In particular I note his long-term plan to benefit all three of his children, the unexplained circumstances surrounding the preparation and signing of the document, and Mr. Thorne’s own expressed uncertainty as to what he had signed.

[20]       Possibly it is simply a matter that Mr. Thorne had had enough of the respondents and had decided to leave everything to the applicant. There are, however, too many outstanding questions surrounding Mr. Thorne’s signing of the document for me to be satisfied with respect to s. 37(a). That is, while I recognize the possibility that Mr. Thorne had testamentary capacity, so that the document embodies his testamentary intentions, I am not satisfied that it is the case. The question cannot be determined only on the evidence that is before me. [emphasis added] 

Therefore, the Court ordered a trial of the issue of whether the document is Mr. Thorne’s will. The applicant, as proponent of the will, would bear the onus of proving the will. The Court awarded the costs of both parties, for this application, out of the Estate.

Lesson:

S.37 is a useful tool to help ensure that a document which embodied the testamentary intention of a deceased, will not fail simply due to an oversight of some formality (i.e. not enough witnesses, etc.)

However, Thorne reminds us that the s. 37 power is not a rubber stamp if there are underlying concerns with the testamentary intention of the testator. Thus, if the Court finds real doubts raised of incapacity or suspicious circumstances, the Court may refuse to “cure” the document until such issues are resolved at trial.  

Contacting a Lawyer on this Subject

James Steele’s preferred practise area is estate litigation, including will challenges, issues surrounding executors, joint account disputes, etc. For more information on this subject, contact James Steele at 1 306 933 1338.

The above is for general information only. Parties should always seek legal advice prior to taking action in specific situations. 

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